Hi all!

I've been up to Fidalgo Island in Skagit County, WA a couple times recently and both times noticed Sphaerophorus growing on rock. I have found these once on Mount Erie and just recently near sea level by Pass Lake. I bet there are lots more like these. They're not epiphytic, but neither of these habitats are remotely alpine. They also don't look like North American photos of alpine S. globosus I've seen. What do we call these? I've noticed before that lichen that are normally epiphytic can be found more frequently on rock when near the ocean, is just this another case like that?

First two photos are on the west side of Pass Lake: 48.4192N, 122.6426W. Last two photos are on Erie: 48.4549N, 122.6274W.

Thanks for the reply Bruce!! Agreed that they look a lot more like tuckermanii. I'd be interested how these end up with more DNA testing (maybe scared, I already have enough trouble with tuckermanii/venerabilis!). I'd be curious if photobiont identity is playing any role here as well.